I joined the MV Greenpeace in late 2000’s. That was supposed to be a 4 month trip, but I stayed for 6 months. And after that trip they called me for the conversion of the Esperanza, and that, from the technical point of view, was very interesting for me to do, so I said yes. And I liked it so much, I liked the people that I was working with so much, I liked the course of Greenpeace work, so I joined and I never left.